Dear Friends,
From the beginning of April 1973 the Mother had become unwell while She was giving blessings. Though She rested for a few days and became a little better, She understood that meeting people and granting special interviews would no longer be possible. Pranab Kumar Bhattacharya, the Mother’s confidant, writes in his Pranab’s Talk on the Mother (pp. 3-4):
‘…on the 20th of May at about 9:30 p.m. when I had just gone out from Her room to the terrace after Champaklalji had come in, I was suddenly called to see what had happened to the Mother. I found Her extremely restless, a bit dejected and, I must say, annoyed with Herself. At least that was what I saw, what I felt. She said She didn’t have any control over Her body. From then, She completely stopped seeing people…’
On the previous day, that is, 19 May 1973, the Mother gave Her last interview to Satprem. Today, we take the opportunity of sharing with you the last interview of the Mother.
With warm regards,
Anurag Banerjee
Chairman,
Overman Foundation.
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[Sujata gives Mother a pale yellow, slightly golden hibiscus with a red heart. Mother holds the flower without seeing it.]
The Mother: What is it?
Satprem: It’s “Ananda in the physical.”
The Mother: We badly need it!
Satprem: Yes, Mother!
The Mother: And you?
Satprem: I was thinking about something Sri Aurobindo wrote…. In “Savitri,” he clearly says, “Almighty powers are shut in Nature’s cells.”
The Mother: In… ?
Satprem: In Nature’s cells.
The Mother: Ohh! … Oh, that is interesting! Almighty powers.
(silence)
The Mother: He doesn’t say anything else?
Satprem: No, not on that subject…. The consciousness of the cells seems to be awakened but not the power.
The Mother: You said the consciousness of the cells is … missing? No?
Satprem: No, the consciousness is there. The consciousness of the cells is awakened, but the power isn’t.
The Mother: Ah! … You said “awakened”?
Satprem: Yes, Mother. Because had the power been awakened, there wouldn’t be any weakness in your body.
The Mother: No.
Satprem: But it is there, Sri Aurobindo says it clearly: it is there, inside, within the very cells.
The Mother: Yes, there’s no need to seek elsewhere.
Satprem: But how to awaken it?
The Mother: Through faith, our faith. If one knows that and has trust…. But you see, my physical, my body is deteriorating very rapidly—what could stop it from deteriorating?
Satprem: Mother, I do not believe it is deterioration—it’s not. My feeling is that you are physically being led to a point of such complete powerlessness that the most complete Power will be forced to awaken….
The Mother: Ah! … you’re right.
Satprem: That Power will then be compelled to come out.
The Mother: Or else I could … I could leave this body, no?
Satprem: Ah, no, Mother! No, Mother, it must be done now.
(silence)
Satprem: It must be done now…. You see, I am certain it’s not disintegration, not at all. It is not disintegration.
(Mother nods approvingly)
Satprem: You know, I have always seen that the other pole springs up from the most extreme opposite. So the supreme Power must spring up from the sort of apparent powerlessness you are in. By no means is it a disintegration.
(long silence)
The Mother: What would you like now?
Satprem: To stay with you, Mother, naturally.
The Mother: Like this?
(Mother takes Satprem’s hands)
Satprem: Yes, Mother.
(Mother plunges in for about ten minutes)
The Mother: For me, you see, the question is food. More and more I find it impossible to eat. Can this body live without food?
Satprem: Mother, I truly believe that you are being led to the point where something else will be forced to manifest.
The Mother: I can’t hear.
Satprem: I think you are led to the point—the point of helplessness or powerlessness where something else will be forced to manifest.
The Mother: Ah…. Maybe.
Satprem: As long as that point … of impossibility has not been reached….
The Mother: Oh, it’s almost the point of impossibility.
Satprem: Yes, Mother, yes, that’s also what I feel. I feel you’re reaching that point, and something else is going to emerge.
(silence)
Satprem: It is not at all the end; quite the contrary, it will soon be the beginning.
The Mother: I was told that the beginning would take place when I am a hundred; but that’s a long way off!
Satprem: No, Mother, I don’t think it will take that long. I don’t think so. I really don’t think so. Another type of functioning is going to set in. But the end of the old has to be reached, and that end is the terrible part!
The Mother: Oh … I really don’t want to say. I don’t want to insist, but … truly…
Satprem: Yes, Mother. I understand, Mother, I understand, yes….
The Mother: The consciousness is clearer, stronger than it has ever been, and I look like an old….
Satprem: Yes, Mother, it’s “normal,” if I may say so. We’re going, you’re going to pass into something else, I sense it—it isn’t faith in me that speaks, it’s something else deep down, that understands.
(silence)
Satprem: I don’t speak out of “faith,” Mother; it’s really like something telling me: that’s the way.
The Mother: What time is it?
Satprem: Five to eleven…. Good-bye, Mother.
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